Code,131008
Subject,David Jolley 
Date,4/2/13
Interviewer,Nick Downer and Clea Newman
Abstract,David Jolley tells about his past growing up in Cleveland and living in the Central neighborhood. Jolley touches upon what he used to do during his youth and makes comparisons of the people and places back when he was younger to how things are today. 
Tags,
Special Notes,Yelling in the background at 23:30
Minutes: ,46 minutes
0,Lives at 2230 East 46th Street.
1,"73 years old. Lived in Central area since 1954. Born in Georgia, moved to Cleveland with parents in 1944. First came to Rawling Ave. Went to Kinsman Elementary. "
2,"Went to Rawlings School on Rawlings and 79th, the moved to the Central area after about 8 or 9 years. Used to live on East 19th off of Woodland. Went to Brownell for 7th, 8th, and 9th grade- then students went to East Tech. But he went to Thomas Edison on 71st and Hough. "
3,"There was Central High School on 40th and Central. Streets have changed, no community college. Came out of school in 1958. Used to be the Eastside Market where the baseball stadium is located."
4,"Market had a horse and wagon, rows of stores up and down the street. 19th street had an open air market. Worked there from 5am-10pm."
5,"27th and Quincy there was a neighborhood show. Hippodrome, State, Palace was downtown. "
6,"No suburbs with malls, best part about downtown was when it was decorated during Christmas time. Down 55th and Woodland- there was the Cleveland Trust right on the corner, then a market and then a five and dime store. Big Ohio station which is now where the post office is located. On the Kinsman corner there was a nightclub that is now a gas station."
7,"Then on Woodland there was a drug store with doctors offices over there. Theater next to the drug store. Mike the hatter on 55th and Woodland, shoe store. 55th and Central had a black hotel- now they have a Goodwill sitting on the corner. Biggest business was Will's."
8,"Will's was a funeral home. Helped people that didn't have money pay on time. East Tech was across from Will's. When East Tech was winning back to back championships form 1958-1960, they started breaking up the schools. Catholic schools would recruit the boys from the projects. "
9,"Broke the monopoly at East Tech. 43rd and Quincy, there was the POC bath house. Describes the schools in the area. "
10,"Central changed from senior high school to middle school. Neighborhood is the same as it is now, but people got along better and they knew one another. "
11,Moved out Central area to 75th and Woodland. Continues to describe schools.
12,Schools where in the neighborhoods so students were able to walk there- no need to take a bus. 55th and Woodland had clubs.
13,Growing up he used to go to track meets at all the schools. A lot of schools he used to go to were torn down. Would visit John Adams and John Hay.
14,John Hay and Jane Addams was a girl's school and East Tech was a boys school. Not too many people who were black lived across 93rd and Kinsman. 
15,"Wouldn't be allowed up at Woodhill in 1950 since mostly whites lived up there. Blacks mostly stayed in their own area, but then began to branch out. Had a good time growing up- not too much different than today."
16,"However, there weren't shootings like there are today- kids didn't shoot kids. They had clubs- the Mighty Kings and French Nobles. If you went to the wrong neighborhood and didn't know anyone, you were in trouble. "
17,Clubs would be on the corners- needed to be careful about what you wore and how to approached the club. Police broke most of the clubs up by 1965. 
18,"If you were around 17 and got in trouble, the judge would give you the option to either go to jail or go into the army. Should be like that now- but they have the high school stipulation. There are a different sort of gangs now."
19,"Would hear about shootings once in a while, sometimes when they had big dances. Rawlings had the biggest dance on Wednesday nights and Friday nights. Two gyms, one for basketball and one for dancing. "
20,Used to be a guard (maintenance man) at the dance gym. Would end around 10. Police would be around because there might be a fight between clubs. Thomas Edison on 71st and Hough would have track meets.
21,"Thomas Edison was located on 71st and Hough. Had track meets- there were fights at track meets between people in the stands. Schools back then had more in the schools- swimming, boxing, photography, welding, woodshop, math, english, science. "
22,East Tech had the same thing but no pool. When they tore the schools down they didn't put half the stuff back into the school they rebuilt. Doesn't think they kept the kids out of trouble- not into sports as much as kids are now. 
23,Didn't play sports year round. Had baseball teams around Woodhill when whites started moving out. 
24,"When he moved by John Adams in 1967, he had white neighbors. They started moving in the 1960s. Slowly began to move east. 1930s and 1940s in Central was all white until blacks started moving from the South. "
25,After a year or two they were gone. Woodland used to have all kind of store that were white owned. 
26,"Began to move out when blacks came into the neighborhood, but blacks used to own stores too. Italians and Jews owned stores around 63rd and Woodland. Had 55th Market like Westside market."
27,"Didn't have to go downtown to the downtown market where the baseball stadium is located. When the Indians and Cavs wanted to built they took out everything around that area- houses and stores. 40th street market is still there, but there were more jobs then. "
28,"Could make a few dollars after school loading trucks. Used to caddy at the golf course, worked at the markets, worked at the Chinese restaurant by the Hippodrome. "
29,"Worked at Metro hospital right out of high school, the Navy finance building (the rented building), Alcore Aluminum, and finally ended up at the Ford plant in Brookpark. Retired from Ford after 30 years. "
30,Could find a job anywhere if you wanted a job. Describes laundry and sewing businesses where blacks and whites worked together. 
31,Continues naming businesses and plants where people could have a job. They are abandoned buildings today. Businesses moved out. 
32,Had pool halls in the neighborhoods he used to go to as a teenager. Didn't allow women in the pool hall because women start trouble. 
33,Didn't hang in the clubs because he didn't drink- most likely working. Parents didn't give kids everything they wanted like they do now. 
34,"Jim Brown came to town in 1959, he bought a big Cadillac."
35,"If Jim Brown got in trouble, Paul Brown would make a call and it would be done. Not messed with like they are now by the police and the media. "
36,"Didn't have TV, used to listen to music on the radio. Listened to Soul Train, but stations didn't play black music. "
37,"Had channels 3,5, and 8. Kids had more respect for parents back then. "
38,If they disrespected anyone they would get a whooping. 
39,Now older people can't even walk out of the house. Kids demanded respect. Government killed that respect that used to be for parents and teachers. If the teacher called parents to come up to school- had a whooping coming. 
40,"Parents now would have called the teacher a liar. Didn't have toys like today, would have to go outside. Used to draw a few hours a day. TVs were too expensive. "
41,Need to build that respect again. 
42,Used to work at the juvenile detention center on Green. Women took jobs that the men used to have. 
43,Women were mothers and did day work back then. Not too many really worked. Told his children when they moved out they were on their own. 
44,If you got down- like his father told him- you'd have to work your way out of it. 
45,Respect was all the difference. 
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