Code,131010 Subject,Carlyle Garner Date,4/30/13 Interviewer,Nick Downer Abstract,Carlyle Garner shares his memories of growing up in Central and talks about the types of businesses and places for entertainment he used to go to while living in the neighborhood. Tags, Special Notes, Minutes: ,21 minutes 0,"Lived on Central and 73rd. Born on 5/19/1953. Attended Central Junior High School, East Tech, and Gideons Elementary School. Central was the highlight of the inner city. " 1,Member of the YMCA on 77th and Cedar right next to Robert's Bike Shop. Won a swimming scholarship. Moved from Central to 89th and Capital. 2,"Used to play music at the Chicken Shack. Listed to a lot of music at Karamu House on 89th and Quincy. Liked the Whispers, OJ's, and the Dramatics. " 3,"Sly and the Family Stone, Ray Charles. He was in the younger group. The Chicken Shack sold wings and 73rd and Central. " 4,Went to the outpost on 30th and Central for dances. Lucky's pool hall was also popular. Richard's was located on 73rd and Cedar. Growing up his father worked and his mother took care of the home. Father worked at Ford Motor Company until his death. 5,Played on 73rd. Black Nationalists were on 71th and Central- operated out of the Sixth Tray. Wanted to join but mother said the only thing he would get out of it was black boots and black pants. Central was a place where a lot of people from the South came. 6,Bath house is still on Central. Went to the YMCA and played a lot of sports. Central is empty now. 7,New houses line Central- thinks it looks better. The houses and schools were torn down. Change happened- the city got wiser and wanted to be more polished. New houses on the street where he used to live. 8,"Old house was white and blue, 2193 E 73rd between Cedar and Central. Used to go to camps and attended St. Phillip's- would get sent to Friendlytown. Used to work at the markets doing fruit delivery. " 9,Projects new Tri-C are closed now. The projects on 30th and Cedar won't be torn down because they were the first projects in the state of Ohio. Majestic Hotel was located on 55th and Central. 10,Used to shine shoes at the bar at the hotel. Still see people he grew up with on Central. 11,Black Nationalists seemed to cause more problems than anything else. 12,Not a lot of membership from Central- got their members from elsewhere. 13,"Lived on Central during the Hough Riots- only a couple of blocks over from where he lived. If you were a white store owner living in the inner city, they probably wrecked the store. Personally, unsure about what they were protesting for. " 14,Parents came from Louisiana and Montgomery. Dad moved to Cleveland because of his mother. Dad's brother lived in Detroit. 15,"Music places were owned by mom and pop types of individuals. Now there are boundaries- certain things aren't allowed. Growing up, everything goes. Also, if you get in trouble it would go back to your mama. " 16,Now younger generations tear up neighborhoods. Safer back then. Central is just a place where people pass. Nothing left except for the bath house. 17,Lived across the street from Indian folks. More white people in the neighborhood now- most of the whites in the neighborhood would be store owners when he was growing up. 18,"People would play ""policy,"" like the lottery. It was their way of making and spending a few extra dollars on the gambling strip. Not too many white people in the vicinity because Central was in the inner city. " 19,"""policy"" started to die out when the lottery began. " 20,Government probably legalized the lottery because of that type of gambling. 21,Things constantly change- uniformitarianism. People are constantly moving- went from crayons to plastic. End 22, 23, 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67