Code,304023
Subject,Donald Grogan
Date,2006
Interviewer,
Abstract,Donald Grogan reflects on his family history with the Hanna Theater and the development of Play House Square. Reflects on the Urband development of Cleveland
Tags,"East Cleveland, Hanna Theater, Playhouse Square, urban development, subway plan, theaters, public transportation, department stores, restaurants, Hanna Building "
Special Notes,Very poor sound quality 
minutes:,
0,"introduction, talks about growing up in Cleveland, talks about home on Thornwood (East Cleveland)"
1,"Talks about Thornwood home, discussion of the city's changes over time"
2,"Born in 1922, remembers Union Store downtown"
3,"Talks about his fathers purchase of the Hanna Theater, sound cuts out from 3:30-3:40"
4,Talks more about his fathers personal interest (sounds like he is looking at pictures/ materials with interviewer)
5,Cont.
6,"Cont., discusses the subway proposal to connect East 105th St. to downtown, father was a member of the Cleveland Building Owners and Managers Association"
7,Father was incredibly dedicated to the project and the group
8,talks about Pat Davis opposition to the subway project
9,"continues to discuss fathers dedication to the project, discusses Bert Porter opposition to the project"
10,Cont.
11,"Cont., talks about Bert Porter's money laundering from a company flower fund"
12,Flower Fund cont.
13,"Discuses the bus service that went in, instead of the Subway"
14,"Lakewood Express that picked up a Public Square, other corporations are in on the route (i.e. Higbee's, May Company)"
15,talks about how all bus systems dropped off at Public Square so as to avoid business competition
16,Cont.
17,"talks about how the development of downtown was built on the ruining of other businesses, not corporation support"
18,Discusses Higbee's and May Company and its owners
19,"Tells a story about business callers, interviewer redirects back to original question about the Hanna Building (dad bought in 1957)"
20,"decline was going to happen regardless, the factors that he attributes to the decline of downtown includes: selfish interests of businesses,"
21,includes: lack of cooperation to make decisions for the community.
22,This led to businesses eventually closing down. The chance of downtown becoming revitalized is possible if they have the guts to do it.
23,"tells story about a cocktail parties he used to attend downtown, used to shop downtown, wife chimes in about her experiences"
24,"wife talks about her experience shopping and eating downtown, windows of the stores at Christmas time"
25,talks about how the problem isn't just a Cleveland problem
26,"thinks that the revival of the subway would be beneficial, but is a controversial topic"
27,cont.
28,talks about how people now a days don't have as much enthusiasm
29,loss of the subway due to the suburban vote - they don't care about downtown
30,Talks about the Mayors for the more suburban areas (i.e. Richmond Heights) and the corruption that can come with the system
31,Cont.
32,talks about his friend Zimmerman as Mayor of Richmond Heights
33,"Zimmerman's brother was city planner, current Mayor is trying the best she can"
34,Joined his fathers company in 1938 after finishing in the army
35,the person who he admires the most are his wife and his father
36,Discusses why the theaters closed
37,cont.
38,"cont. (the environment is not the same), the Hanna was part of a league that protected (national theater league?"
39,"reflection on the types of shows that came to the Hanna, sound cuts out form 39:27-39:37"
40,"traveling shows, Manager Milton Krantz reflection"
41,Milton Krantz cont.
42,"Milton Krantz cont., talks about Mr. Hanna and the Hanna Family"
43,Mr. Hanna and the Hanna Family cont.
44,"death of President William McKinley, Hanna cont."
45,"thinks living history (public history) history, the Western Reserve doesn't have the money like it used to"
46,"Western Reserve cont., favorite show at the Hanna How to Suceed in Business with out Trying "
47,How to Suceed cont. 
48,Boyardee home party story
49,"Boyardee cont., wife discusses the musicals and how the Hanna didn't have enough seats"
50,"reflections on Music Hall musicals due to lack of space for seating, wife reflections on love of musicals"
51,contemplation of question being asked
52,a good show lead to a good turnout for the rest of the community
53,problems with today's shows in comparison to old shows
54,cont.
55,"belonged to the beginning of the Playhouse Square Association, reflections on time served"
56,wife talks about her husbands financial contributions to the Playhouse Square theaters to help keep them standing
57,reflections on the association cont.
58,reflections on the association cont.
59,reflections on the people of the association
60,reflections on the people of the association cont.
61,Wife talks about all of the seats being ripped out of the theater
62,Didn't think that the Playhouse Square Association would be as successful as it was
63,cont.
64,Reflections on the damage to the inside of the theaters before preservation
65,Story about the artist brought in for the art work of the theaters
66,Story cont.
67,Story cont. Hanna Building Restaurants
68,"The Pompeii room in the Hanna Building Restaurants, Klein's Restaurant (Jewish), Monaco's"
69,"Monaco's restaurant cont.,"
70,"Monaco's restaurant cont.,"
71,"Wife talks about her history of the resturants in the theater that she wrote, Monaco's restaurant/ family cont."
72,"Monaco's restaurant/ family cont.,"
73,"Monaco's restaurant/ family cont.,"
74,fondest memory of the city (sound cuts out 1:14:25-1:14:30) was purchasing the Hanna Building
75,Fondest Memory cont.
76,"looks through materials to see if there is anything else he wanted to talk about, wife and interviewer talk about documents"
77,"wife and interviewer talk about the original stocks for the Hanna, Dad owned lots of different buildings in Cleveland not just the Hanna"
78,reflects on his father trying to fix him up with women
79,"has been married to his second wife for 38 years, lost his first wife in a house fire"
80,"talks about their family and their children, all of the kids wanted to take over the family business, sound cuts out 1:20:55-1:21:10"
81,"None of the kids had the right qualifications, was an only child to his parents"
82,"At Northwestern he kind of had a trial run, wanted to perform"
83,Northwestern cont.
84,"Northwestern cont., Women's Temperance Association"
85,"Joined the Army, Wife talks about Herman Pirchner' Alpine Village in downtown"
86,"Alpine Village Cont. , Taking the kids to see Mr. Jingling"
87,"Mr. Jingeling cont., Cleveland Department stores"
88,"Cleveland Department Stores cont., Reflections on his father and his family"
89,Reflections cont.
90,"Reflections cont. , info about interviewers family"
91,interviewers family cont.
92,interviewers family cont.
93,Thanks yous and conclusion 1:33:58