Abstract
In this 2025 interview, Roshawn Sample, the Executive Director of NuPoint Community Development Corporation, talks about her early, positive memories of the Union-Miles neighborhood, her experience in the public schools, and her pathway to working at NuPoint (formerly Union Miles Development Corporation). She also describes her experience attending University of Akron, raising her daughter in Lee-Harvard, and working as a social worker. At the end of the interview, she encourages young people to pursue their dreams.
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Interviewee
Sample, Roshawn (interviewee)
Interviewer
Carubia, Ava (interviewer)
Project
Union-Miles
Date
2-28-2025
Document Type
Oral History
Duration
41 minutes
Recommended Citation
"Roshawn Sample Interview, 28 February 2025" (2025). Cleveland Regional Oral History Collection. Interview 483019.
https://engagedscholarship.csuohio.edu/crohc000/1368
Transcript
Ava Carubia [00:00:00] All right, so I read a little beginning intro. Today is February 28, 2025. My name is Ava Carubia and I’m here at NuPoint Community Development Corporation in Cleveland, Ohio interviewing Ms. Roshawn Sample for the Cleveland Regional Oral History Project. Thank you for agreeing to be interviewed today.
Roshawn Sample [00:00:17] You’re welcome.
Ava Carubia [00:00:18] Can you please state your name, the year you were born and where you were born for the record?
Roshawn Sample [00:00:24] My name’s Roshawn Sample. And the year I was born was 1976 here in Cleveland, Ohio.
Ava Carubia [00:00:32] Okay, great. I want to get started right there. Can you talk about where in particular you were born?
Roshawn Sample [00:00:37] Well, I was born at University Hospitals, Rainbow Babies and Children. Side note, I had that, I remember her when I was a kid. Her name was Dr. Nello. She was a short, little white lady. She was the sweetest person. But anyway, anyway, born and raised here in the Union-Miles area on East 131st Street. I was raised in a single family household by my mom and then my grandmother and my older sister. So it was a household full of women. And all of us are Virgos: August and September birthdays. I was raised in that home on East 131st, Main street of Harvard. Everyone would think that it wasn’t really a community on that street because it was a main thoroughfare.However, everyone on that street knew one another. And let me tell you, I had the best time over in that community being raised there. Community, neighbors were family. Everybody knew each other. Neighbors would discipline other children. There was no, like, boundaries and everyone looked out for one another on the corner of the street. It was a corner store, penny candy store, and you could play pinball machines. His name was Frank and the wife was Alice. And I believe they still stay on Miles. But they were great. You know, if one of our parents, you know, our parents used to send us to buy cigarettes or lunch meat at the corner store. And if we didn’t have the money, you know, they’ll put it down as a credit. It’s so different right now. Everyone knew each other and on the other end of the 131st was Sohio, Haynes Firestone now. His dad used to pump my mom’s gas and repair the car. So back then, it was just community. And I really enjoyed my childhood. I couldn’t say that I was. What do I want to say? I couldn’t say that I was poor. You know, my mom worked hard. We weren’t rich. But anything I needed, she provided. And then at that time, I’m getting emotional. And at that time, whatever I didn’t like, whatever I didn’t have, I wouldn’t have known or gone without because she did it. Like, she worked. And my grandmother would cook all of those things, make sure my hair was combed. She did so much. But I really enjoyed my childhood.
Ava Carubia [00:03:40] Where did your mom work?
Roshawn Sample [00:03:42] She was a social worker. She was a social worker at. What’s so crazy? It used to be, it’s on Kinsman. It was the Two Cousins is right at that point of the gas station. She worked as a social worker there, is no longer. It’s Two Cousins now. That was a county building. Then she went to senior adult services and worked there. And she retired at the age of 55. She was there forever when she finished school and went there. And then my sister did the same thing. She wasn’t a social worker. She worked in, what is it, child support, and she retired at that same age. My sister is 11 years older than me and she was more so like a aunt than a sister. But yeah, so she worked. They were from Tennessee, Nashville, and they moved here in Cleveland when my mom was a young child. And my mom went to school at John Hay, graduated from there, all of that. I attended Miles Elementary School. I walked to school with all my girlfriends. We walked. Even when the snow was knee deep, we walked. It wasn’t closed. Just so many good memories just walking through. We weren’t worried about, you know, there wasn’t any danger or anything at that time. And if anybody was on drugs. We didn’t say, we knew they were on drugs, but everybody would support them. It was very far between where there was a lot of crime that was happening. We knew it occurred, but it wasn’t like. Like it is now. So when I’m riding or walking down the streets and see so many empty homes and, you know, it’s just. It’s really sad. It’s really sad because I know what it used to be, used to be thriving. And then on the corner of my street, there was a fruit stand, vegetable market. This Hungarian little man used to be on the corner every day when I was in elementary school. And they used to buy items from him. Trying to think anything else on that street. But yeah, all homeowners, they were just. Yeah, everybody was great.
Ava Carubia [00:06:23] And your experience in elementary school, was it positive?
Roshawn Sample [00:06:28] My experience in elementary school was positive. It was crazy because I know in kindergarten it was like half a day. I went in the afternoon or more, I don’t remember, but it was half a day. And then I didn’t really have any issues. And I got paddled once, and it wasn’t even my fault. His name was Mr. Bernino. He was a math teacher. Oh, and Ms. Ward, you know, I remember those. But my favorite teacher, her name was Ms. Win. She was a white lady. She had really long hair. I believe that was third grade. But my experience there Miles School was really good. I can’t even think of any negatives. Yeah, I had a good experience in high school. And then when I went to middle school, I was shipped on the west side. I was really mad because half of the street went to Jamison, and then I had to go all the way on the west side to Artemus Ward.
Ava Carubia [00:07:40] Was this because of busing?
Roshawn Sample [00:07:41] Yeah, busing. I’m like, well, what is that? Why am I going to the west side when I could walk down the street? So that kind of changed the narrative in community because all of us used to hang out together. And then we were split. We went to Artemus Ward and Westropp, and then they went to Jamison. And then even in high school, I thought I was gonna go to John F K like my sister did. I went to South High, which is now closed on Broadway. It was the craziest thing. And a lot of my friends went to JFK, Marshall, and we went to South. But ironically, all of us that are from that neighborhood still keep in contact, whether it’s through social media, we see each, I see a lot of people out here all the time. And, you know, those that remain in the neighborhood that I’ve seen, you know, look so like life has been lifing, because they look extremely old. And, oh, no, I can’t explain it. They just look drained for whatever reason. You know, things happen. But overall, I think, you know, I couldn’t ask for a better upbringing. I really enjoyed my time. I got to, you know, hard work, good work ethic, have integrity, love your family, where it’s a close, tight knit family. Yeah, yeah. And caring women. You know, I don’t know nothing less than to advocate for myself, to take care of my child, you know, to work hard for what I have. Because, you know, she will always say she wanted us to have more than she did. So, you know, that’s. With any mom, you will hope that’s what we did, you know. Yeah.
Ava Carubia [00:09:34] So when you graduated from high school, what happened after that?
Roshawn Sample [00:09:38] So when I graduated from high school, and it was so crazy because I received quite a bit of offers, but I stayed behind because of a boy. Oh, my goodness. I don’t know why I did that. Anywho, anywho I went to University of Akron because I said, oh, I’m gonna go close to where he’s going because he went to Kent. But nonetheless, I went to Akron U. I remember it was, my grandmother, she was looking out the window, all sad. And my sister and my mom drove me to Akron U. It was a simple process. Now I think about it, because with my daughter, I’m going through hoops trying to do everything, but they took me and it was like I just had my clothes and my comforter. But I had phenomenal roommates at University Akron. I stayed in Grant Hall. I was a little homesick because at that time it wasn’t really. I didn’t have no cell phone. It was like pagers or I called on the landline so there weren’t no cell phones then. You know, graduated high school in ’94. So now. So I went to Akron U. Now my first year, Ava, I was terrible. I was terrible. I partied. I did all the wrong things. I had a blast. So I had to stay an extra year. Oh, but what was so crazy, I started college at 17. Yeah, started college because of the birthday or whatever. So I started at 17. And I remember I had an English class. And for whatever reason, she told my mom, she said, this young lady has so much potential, but she’s not coming to class, she’s didididi. I got a call from my mom and I’m like, why my professor calling you? I’m grown. She was like, I’m paying your damn tuition. You better do da da da da da da da. I was so embarrassed. So from that point on, I said, I gotta shape up. So, yeah, so during that time frame, I really turned it around. But I had a blast at Akron U. At that time. I met good friends, I had great roommates. I’ve developed relationships that I still have to this day. But yeah, I had a good time at Akron U.
Ava Carubia [00:12:13] And then after that, did you come back to Cleveland?
Roshawn Sample [00:12:15] So, yeah, so after I graduated, I came back. I remember my mom and sister. Once again, they came. I had a U haul because at senior year I had an apartment and one of my roommate had a kid and oh, yeah, that was. It was like, ugh. But anywho, I. They picked me up and then I stayed at home for literally maybe six months, if that, because I couldn’t take it. I was so used to going and being on my own, having my private space. So I began working at the Cleveland Christian Home. It’s a residential facility for behavioral kids and foster care, all that for boys. So I did that for a very long time up until 2000. Wait a minute, 2000? I worked there from ‘99 to 2002. So I had an apartment. Backtrack. I had an apartment in Bedford. Bedford, Rockside Towers or something. It was on Bedford, I remember, on Northfield Road. And the apartment, it was a single. And the property manager name was Donna. I just ran into Donna about a month ago. Short, little, light skinned woman. She was the, she was the sweetest person. And then my neighbor was an old Jewish lady. She was like, oh, when I moved in, she was like, had to be in her 90s. I would check on her. She was a sweetheart. Every time I go in there, it was so hot. She was just. It was just so hot. And then upstairs, I’m telling you, upstairs, it was a man, he was a little gigolo. He. He be in and out. Hey, you know, they were just, they all looked out, once again like a community. Donna was the niece of Mayor Frank Jackson. It was so crazy. We get to talking and all of that great stuff because her daughters were a little younger than me, younger than me. And I literally just seen Donna and she would treat me so kind and look out for me even if I was late on rent. She’d like, Roshawn, I’m giving you such. And then I’d be like, oh my goodness. But she would help me out in that. So in 2002, I decided to leave that place because it was draining me. The hours, second shift, third. I didn’t want to do that anymore. I saw opportunity at East End Neighborhood House. And this is a social service agency, one of the oldest settlement houses over in the Buckeye-Woodhill area. So I was a social worker there trying to prevent families from going in the system. And then during that time frame, I became the supervisor of social workers over in the neighborhood center, working closely with Department of Children Family Services. So I did that from 2002 to 2012. During that time, I moved out of my apartment and bought my first home in the Lee-Harvard area, down the street from Harvard Deli. I used to buy corned beef sandwiches all the time, but I moved up there. What’s so crazy, Ava. When I was a child, I always thought Lee-Harvard was the place. I’m like, mom, why we ain’t staying up there? That was the goal for me at that time because I thought, you know, that was the wealth and all of that stuff. You know, you would see all of the African Americans’ homes manicured compared to down my way. Everybody looking good. They had a shopping center all of that. And that’s where my mom used to shop. So I said when I graduated, got a job, that’s where I was gonna buy my house. And I did. So I bought my house in 2002. I bought my house in 2002. I bought it for $50,000, and I had to do some work on it, trying to think if I missed something. So, yeah, so I was working at East End, and then I bought my first house. And when my mom and grandma came to see the house, they were so happy. She was making all these plans. Oh, we’re gonna do this in the backyard. We’re gonna do this. So when we had family events, now they were at my house. Yeah. So during that time frame, from 2002 to 2012. And then during that time frame, I met my daughter’s dad, who I’m about to marry just now. Anyway, I met him in 2003. Thankfully, he was a. He’s a contractor, and he did all the things needed for my home. And then I had my daughter in 2005. 2005. She was raised there from, till she was 15. Until she was 15. From 2005 until she was 15. Because during that time frame, I saw a lot of things happen. They were breaking in people’s homes. They broke in my home twice, where I had to get bars on the back of my windows. It was just insane. And then when she would go outside to play, ride her bike, I would have to be on the porch. It was just scary because we knew there were drug dealers on the corner, all of that. So she didn’t get what I had. I was playing out, coming home when the street lights came on. You know, I ride my bike everywhere. I had to be home when the street lights came on. I had to literally watch her. There weren’t a lot of kids in the neighborhood for her to play with. So that’s why I kept her engaged in after school activities. Ballet, dance, all of that, so she could network and meet people, because I knew she wasn’t getting that in the neighborhood. So, yeah, so we moved when she was 16. She still went to the same high school. I would drive her to high school, but we didn’t live there anymore.
Ava Carubia [00:18:57] When do you think the neighborhood changed like from the way it was when you were a kid to how it was for your daughter?
Roshawn Sample [00:19:04] So I saw the neighborhood change where I grew up on 131st when I went away to college, and then I came back and I graduated in ’99. Yeah, I graduated ’99. I graduated in ’99. But, yeah, I saw the neighborhood change because then I got my masters at Cleveland State, and I was driving myself while I was working, and I saw the. I would say between ’99 and 2001, it was like, whoo. And then definitely it was a wrap when we moved my mom. My grandmother passed on in 2007, and then when my mom was home by herself, we moved her out of there. Oh, she stayed with my sister in Maple Heights because we didn’t want her down there. And I would say that was 2000, and, oh, these years are going by so quickly. 16. 2016, we had her move with my sister because she had a ranch style. Yeah, yeah, it was terrible. 2016, everybody was gone, Everything. Nobody was there anymore. So, yeah, I would say that. And when my d– Yeah, dang. Yeah, around the same time. Yeah, it was like, oh, we got to get away from here on 148th. Yeah, that was around the same time. Yeah. Things are like, you. We moved, like, during COVID During that time from the Lee-Harvard area. So, yeah, things were just, like, back to back. Like, now that you think about it, like, things were definitely changing because people were moving out, people were passing on, didn’t leave the home to anyone. You know, that’s the issue with estate planning. Like, right now, my. It happened so quickly. My mom didn’t do an estate, you know, planning. So my sister and I tried to get the home. Then they want to try to charge us. Like, come on now. This house is not worth that because we were trying to do some work, rehab. It. So it. I hate even riding by. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Just a complete decline. Yeah.
Ava Carubia [00:21:43] And then after you graduated and, like, your work at East End Neighborhood House, why did you want to work in the community?
Roshawn Sample [00:21:53] So I wanted, like, I don’t know, just seeing my mom do the work that she did throughout the years. Everybody that I. In my family, even out of state, where they were teachers, social workers, that was just public service. That’s all I saw. Like, had a cousin, a psychiatrist. That’s all I, you know, would really see and hear and listen about, so. Because I went to school to be a speech therapist. So I got that degree and then came home and I just started working in that field, you know, getting money, paying for school. School. And I said, this is something that I want to do. When I was in Cleveland Christian home, I’m like, these kids in the system, somebody needs to kind of, like, help. Then I became a social worker, and I’m like, geez, some of these kids and families like, what in the world is happening? So I just fell into it, started doing that social work, and then in 2000. So I worked from East End from 2002 to 2012. Then a board member from Union Miles reached out to me. They saw the work I was doing and said they needed somebody here to get involved with their community engagement efforts and all of that. Because honestly, when I started Union Miles, I didn’t know what Union Miles was. And I’ve been in this neighborhood forever. I’m like, Union Miles, where is this at? So I researched. I did the interview. Inez was in my interview. And I’m like, do I want to change? Do I want to come over here? You know, you know, when you get comfortable in the position, whatever. So I decided to move on to community development. And I can honestly say me having social service background really helped coming over into community development, because during that time frame, I was able to build, like, 10 block clubs here, bring these, some of these programs to Union-Miles and get back and engage in the neighborhood, which I was raised in, which is something that I always wanted to do. So I thought it was a privilege for me to come back into the neighborhood and to give back somehow, and to bring programs and services here, which was great. So when I started, I started as Community Engagement Coordinator. Zack Reed, councilman was in an interview. So I did a lot of grant writing, did a lot of programs. And then what was so crazy, I start promoting. That’s when social media was starting to, you know, and then people was like, Union Miles. Union Miles. What is that? And, you know, other organizations were starting to say, oh, okay, this is what they do. And it was like, okay. It’s like, we’re. We’re revitalizing this organization because it was just me, Donald, the director at that time, what you call them people, that? Her name was Anya. She was from the organizations that temporary placed here. Vista.
Ava Carubia [00:25:25] Oh, AmeriCorps.
Roshawn Sample [00:25:27] Yes, yes, yes, yes. So it wasn’t a lot of us here at that time. So we were doing a lot of work. We were in the big building at Carnegie Library. So it was a lot. A lot of work that needed to be done. And then in 2014, I became the assistant director. Things happen so fast. The assistant director. I was doing it for a while, and then I became interim director. Because, honestly, Ava, it was never my goal to be ED. I’m telling you, and that’s a fact. I just wanted to do the work and keep it moving. But then everybody’s like, Roshawn, you should do it. You should do it. You should do it. I’m like, I don’t know if I want that responsibility, you know, because it’s so political having to deal with council. This, this, this, this, this. That was not my realm. So over. It was like a learning curve. I had to learn so much from. Yeah, I just had to learn this. Navigating community development, City Hall, all of those things. Who to talk to, who not to talk to, who to go to. It was so. Oh, it was. It was quite aggravating at that time, and I didn’t have, like a shield around me, so I got my head bumped a lot of times. It was just like a lot of learning lessons throughout that whole time frame. And then I became ED in 2018. So from 2018. Yeah. During COVID it was just a lot of changes. And then we’re here now. So it wasn’t an easy road by far, Ava. It was like a lot of hurdles to come through to make new point where it is today. And I’m actually, I’m very proud because we went from a budget of literally 500 something thousand to now almost 4 million. So it’s completely different. And we built up capacity. And I just want this organization to be at a place when the next ED comes–smooth sailing. Just fundraising. You see what I’m saying? Because it hasn’t been an easy task for me and others along the way. Community development is not for the weak, not for the meek. It’s not easy. You know, you could always have to have hope that one day, that next month will be better than the next. And it can be quite tricky because you’re dealing with council, you dealing with different personalities. Someone may want to fund, someone may not. So therefore, you got to be innovative and think of ways how you’re going to generate money to make sure payroll is done, you know. But I can truly say I enjoy my time because I’m able to give back to the neighborhood. And I just pray one day that, you know, you know, I know revitalization takes time, but, you know, I just pray this is the year for implementation. Yeah. Yeah. Because I believe these residents deserve more than what they have been getting, this neighborhood. And if other parts of the City of Cleveland can get rejuvenated, then I believe we can too.
Ava Carubia [00:29:19] What’s one of your most positive memories in this area because you spent so much time here?
Roshawn Sample [00:29:24] Positive?
Ava Carubia [00:29:25] Yeah. Or happiest.
Roshawn Sample [00:29:29] Happy. You know, what I would say when I was a teenager or, you know, me and my girlfriends walking down the street going to Speedy’s, you know the gas station that. That’s right on the corner. It used to be ran by Pinky. What was the guy’s name? He owned quite a few things, like Vert’s. It was a concert, we used to dance, party center right there on the corner where the permanent housing is. Oh, my goodness. But anywho, I would say going walking down to Speedy’s and they used to have like a. What it was it like a van. I don’t know what it was. They made it a makeshift. Which you could go in there. We used to get hot sauce and fries and Polish boys. They used to be the best, I tell you, the best. Just us spending a lot of time walking down the street, seeing our neighbors, but going down there and people knowing who we are or going to the bike shop on Benwood for the fix, repairing the bike. But I would just say sitting on our porch on the main street of Harvard, just talking with neighbors and people walking down the street. You literally knew who everybody was. Radio Raheem walked down. Yeah, walking down the street with his radio. And then the guy, he used to make dresses, prom dresses. He used to walk down with his suit. I’m telling you, it was the craziest stuff you would see. But everybody literally knew each other, you know, and. But yeah, we shopped within, you know, it was just like, it was completely different. But those will be my fondest memories as a child, I would say, as an adult, you know, or, you know, I guess working here would be when we had. I remember back in. What year was that? 2015, maybe we had the largest. It was jazz art festival. It was right out here. The permanent supportive housing wasn’t there. It was thousands of people. Lynn Toliver. It was thousands of people out here. We thought was going to be a small, but it was huge. We took up 131st. No crime, no shootings, no nothing. And just like with family unity out on Kinsman, nothing. Just people outside having a good time, barbecuing, drinking, enjoying the live entertainment. Yeah, that’s what I would say. And yeah, I just literally, I’m telling you, my childhood, I must say, I literally had, I had a good time over there. Yeah, I wouldn’t change anything. I wouldn’t change anything. Yeah.
Ava Carubia [00:32:41] And how do you think being from this area of Cleveland has impacted you as a person?
Roshawn Sample [00:32:48] I would say that with LeBron’s, everything is earn, not given, I would say, because I have never. My mom always raised me not to be defined by my zip code, you know, so that’s why I try to tell other girls, like people from this neighborhood, you could do whatever you set your mind to. But many of times, these people don’t have the support systems like I had and my friends had. You know, all of us had strong families. The crew that I would hang out with on that street, you know, whether it was granddad taking us to school, whether it’s my mom, you know, we all work together, I would say, yeah, I think it’s made me resilient. It’s made me appreciate the things that I have. Even if with my daughter, I would share with her, you know, things, you know, from the neighborhood she always tried to represent. Oh, I’m from the hood. No, you’re not. No, you’re not. No, you’re not. You know, things I appreciate, like, as a kid, I’m like, I don’t want them pinto beans. I don’t want them chicken and dumplings. You know, those quick meals in the pot that. Now I know why she did. They did. Because it would last. You know, I appreciate that. And it’s delicious to me now. I didn’t want it then, but I appreciate that kind of stuff. Just the life lessons. And it didn’t make me naive, you know, at times, you know. You know, raising daughter in, in the suburbs, you know, that kind of thing, they become naive and not aware of certain things. I’ve seen a lot. You know, I’ve done a lot. But it just made me appreciate what I have now, you know, and I’m able to do things with her, my family, that I couldn’t. You know, never in my wildest, I would ask my mom could I study abroad. That wasn’t even an option for me to ask her, you know what I’m saying? If I got a scholarship. But I’m able to do those things for my daughter, you know, things that, you know, I dreamed of, she can do. So, yeah, it’s like, man. I appreciate every moment that I had over here on 131st because I met people who were, you know, I didn’t have uncles, so I had those uncles, I had those brothers, you know, that would protect, you know, if they saw me walking down the street by myself, they would make sure I got to got in the house, safe, you know, So I. It just made me a strong person. It made me appreciate what I have. But yeah.
Ava Carubia [00:35:41] And I have one more question for you, which is what I ask everyone at the end of these interviews, which is, what’s the message you’d like to leave for future generations?
Roshawn Sample [00:35:51] That’s a good question. What? Oh. Oh, my goodness, Ava. You got me with that. I would say for them to do whatever they’re doing, to do it with purpose, whatever that purpose is, to do it with integrity, to do it with love, and to do it because you want to, not because you feel that you’re obligated to. You know, I became a public servant because that’s something that I saw, I learned, and that I decided to do for myself. I don’t want people, the next generation, to work in a bubble. You know, whatever your dreams are, pursue them. That’s what I encourage my daughter to do. Pursue. Whatever it is that you want to do, because whatever you decide to do, you gotta love it. You don’t want to feel like, I don’t come here as a job, like, oh, I gotta go to work today. I enjoy it because I feel that we’re gonna make impactful change, intentional change in the neighborhood. That’s what I want to see happen. So if you’re gonna do, whether you’re gonna be a filmmaker, whether you’re gonna be a social worker, be the best at it and love what you’re doing, be committed to it.Don’t half-ass do anything. You know, be who you are. A lot of times people feel like, oh, she mean, she’s this, she’s this, is that. But it’s like, I’ve learned over time, no nonsense. If we can’t be, you know, what’s that one word I want to say? You know, mediocrity. You know, we have to go above and beyond. You know, as African Americans here in the urban community, we have to go above and beyond and prove ourselves. We can’t put out half-ass work because it will be reviewed, criticized, critiqued, all of that. So I would say for the next generation, don’t be defined, confined within your zip code. Broaden your horizons. Go. You know, don’t say you can’t do this. You know, there are scholarships, there’s free stuff to do. If you’re interested in enjoying it because your crew is not wanting to do it, don’t. Don’t block yourself from not doing it. Go ahead and do it. You know, just fly, fly. Because one thing I know looking back, if I could change one thing about my decisions, I would have definitely went away to college instead of. Things happen for a reason. But if I could change something, I would have definitely went to a HBCU. But, yeah, that’s what I would tell them. You know, don’t be defined or scared to try new things, you know, just do it. Just do it and be who you are.
Ava Carubia [00:39:02] Well, that’s the end of my questions. But is there anything I didn’t ask you about that you want to add?
Roshawn Sample [00:39:11] I think you’ve covered everything, but. Yeah, I think you’ve covered everything. I’m just, you know, excited to be able to be a steward of this neighborhood from which I was born and raised in. We’re trying to change the way the environment looks over here on this side of town. Development does take time, but, you know, as a CDC, we’re doing our best to make sure those changes occur. I’m committed to make those changes until my time is up. But, you know, even though I don’t stay in this neighborhood anymore, I love this neighborhood because of the memories. Because what I see. And it makes me sad that the youth now owns only have memories of blight and crime. That is not what I have. And I want to change that narrative because I only have nothing but great, fond memories of the neighborhood. So just want to change that perspective and hopefully one day that will happen. But again, you know, yeah, I think you covered everything.
Ava Carubia [00:40:32] Okay, great. I’m gonna end the recording.
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