Ema Fuchs was born to a German family in Uruguay in 1939. She moved to Brazil at a young age and described her time growing up in a German town/community in South America and the blending of cultures, languages, food, and experiences she had. She moved from Brazil to the United States in 1964 while pregnant because her husband needed open heart surgery. She had her eldest child five days after arriving in the U.S. She discusses moving to the U.S., living with her husband, and taking care of her three children and raising them to appreciate their German heritage. She ran a daycare out of her house and loved cooking for the children. She also discusses her love of dancing.


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Fuchs, Ema (interviewee)


Donaldson, Hannah (interviewer)


Cleveland German-American Oral History Project



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Hannah Donaldson [00:00:00] Hello, my name is Hannah Donaldson. Today is September 13th, twenty twenty one, I'm here with Ema Fuchs, also present as her sweetheart Gunther and her friend Elsa Arsic. If you're interested in Elsa's story I have also interviewed her as well. So, Emma, why don't you tell me a little bit about your life growing up, what it was like, where you from when you were born?

Ema Fuchs [00:00:21] I don't I don't remember. I'm being born, but I know the place. Yeah, it's called It's South America. I should tell my name first

Hannah Donaldson [00:00:35] That's fine, yeah

Ema Fuchs [00:00:36] I am Ema Fuchs and I am interviewing Hannah. And, I'm from South America. I was born in Uruguay at the little it was just a little town called Burigayupe.

Hannah Donaldson [00:00:53] And how would you spell that?

Ema Fuchs [00:00:56] I have to write that down. So I know.

Hannah Donaldson [00:00:58] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:01:02] Let me just get my paper work in there. Can I do that?

Hannah Donaldson [00:01:05] Yeah go ahead.

Ema Fuchs [00:01:08] That would be easier. Burigayupe. That's a Spanish word. It was a little little town doesn't exist today anymore.

Hannah Donaldson [00:01:15] OK.

Ema Fuchs [00:01:17] Ok. And I was born there and I don't know how old I was when I moved. When I moved to to the to the city more you know, closer to the city. Dayman, Salto actually. The city Salto was the closest and that's where my parents moved with the whole family. And I grew up there till Dayman and I was 17 years old when we moved to Brazil.

Hannah Donaldson [00:01:51] And when were you born?

Ema Fuchs [00:01:53] March. Twenty five. Thirty nine. And I was 17 years old when we moved to Brazil and Brazil was Ijui should I write that down?

Hannah Donaldson [00:02:04] Yes, please.

Ema Fuchs [00:02:07] Is this is this is Uruguay. This is Brazil. And the city was Ijui. Rio Grande do Sul. And I lived in in Brazil for I was I was a. How old was I when we moved here? That was in 64. Yeah, so we came from Brazil to the United States. And the reason was my husband needed open heart surgery.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:02] Oh, wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:03:03] And the doctors here, they were the best ones that we know. We know. And and then we stayed here since 64. And now it's 21.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:16] So in Brazil, you grew up in a German community?

Ema Fuchs [00:03:20] Yeah, it was a small city called Ijui and it was all German. You could go to any store and speak German.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:30] So you grew up speaking German, Spanish, and English?

Ema Fuchs [00:03:33] And Portuguese.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:35] And Portuguese.

Ema Fuchs [00:03:37] Four of em.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:38] That's incredible.

Ema Fuchs [00:03:39] Mm hmm.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:40] Do you know why your parents moved from Germany to Uruguay?

Ema Fuchs [00:03:44] My parents, because they were born in Russia.

Hannah Donaldson [00:03:47] Oh.

Ema Fuchs [00:03:47] And my dad in Ukraine. My mom in Russia. But they're from German parents. And that was in, ah, what year was that? Probably in the 60s after the First World War, you know, and then. Yeah. And then they moved back and forth, you know, they were sent out of the Russia of the Russians because of the communist and the deaths that divided them to South America. And they lived in the jungles for probably three years. And then they they moved to Uruguay.

Hannah Donaldson [00:04:36] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:04:36] Finding a better place to live. Yeah. And we were poor. We didn't have nothing. And just we made up our own our own place and our own, you know, just as kids, do. Yeah. We had we got a really doll one time and the pigs were walking around and they ate our dolls isn't that weird?

Hannah Donaldson [00:05:02] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:05:08] We had to go to the bathroom, my sister and me. And by the time we come back, it was gone. But we cried and they were pretty dolls.

Hannah Donaldson [00:05:17] I can imagine

Ema Fuchs [00:05:19] What made it made out of cartoons. No, no person. Well, no, anything so. But yeah, we have we had a good time. We had a lot of friends and and relatives too close by and we didn't have a car. We just had horses and you know a wagon. And that's how we went around. Till my parents had a little bit of money. They bought some machinery and they were just, oh, you know, we just lived in the country. Out in the country. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. We had fun. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:05:59] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:06:00] Just putting our things together our own things. Yeah. And we were dancing a lot.

Hannah Donaldson [00:06:06] Right.

Ema Fuchs [00:06:06] And I still dance a lot, and I love it. But he's a good dancer too.

Hannah Donaldson [00:06:11] That's wonderful.

Ema Fuchs [00:06:12] So it's good, it's good exercise. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:06:15] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:06:15] Yeah. So but what else you want to know?

Hannah Donaldson [00:06:20] No Is your, was your husband, also German or?

Ema Fuchs [00:06:23] He was, he was from the former east side east of Germany and he does to. So from the former East Germany. Yeah. From. You think I can think of that.

Elsa Arsic [00:06:40] Mecklenburg.

Ema Fuchs [00:06:41] Mecklenburg yeah, Mecklenburg. That's right. She knows more. Yeah, that's why she knows. Yeah he was from Mecklenburg. They lived on the farm also. And then they moved to the city and from there they came back from, to Brazil.

Hannah Donaldson [00:07:01] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:07:02] Because their my mother in law's parents. They lived here in Brazil her family. And that's where they moved in. Yeah. Immigrated in Brazil.

Hannah Donaldson [00:07:13] What was it like growing up with so many different cultures and influences in your life?

Ema Fuchs [00:07:17] Yeah, yeah. It was it was a lot. I mean, you can write a book about it.

Hannah Donaldson [00:07:23] I'm sure.

Ema Fuchs [00:07:24] Yeah, yeah. It was a lot. And then when we came here. Because of his heart, he needed open heart surgery, our children, we have three daughters and they were all three born here and we were here like the fifth day, my my oldest one. I almost was born in the airplane.

Hannah Donaldson [00:07:45] Oh, my gosh.

Ema Fuchs [00:07:46] Yeah, yeah. They had a bed and everything for me there. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:07:50] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:07:50] So but it was it was interesting. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:07:54] It sounds interesting

Ema Fuchs [00:07:55] I was not even afraid to fly. I never, I never knew how, you know what a flight is. Actually we only saw the airplanes from far away not very close.

Hannah Donaldson [00:08:08] So you came from Brazil to the United States in what year?

Ema Fuchs [00:08:12] 64,

Hannah Donaldson [00:08:13] 64. And at that time you were pregnant with your oldest daughter?

Ema Fuchs [00:08:16] Yeah, the fifth day she was born.

Hannah Donaldson [00:08:19] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:08:20] Yeah. And we went that day we went to we went all the way down to the highest bridge in Colorado Springs. Remember what it is called. But that's where we went the first day. And then we got lost on the way home. And we almost she almost was was born in the car that why we went to yeah. But she came early because of all the excitement and paperwork. We had to get our paperwork ready. And it took us over a year to immigrate here. And then, yeah, we immigrated in Los Angeles and then we were three weeks in Colorado. And then we came to Cleveland and our our little baby was only two weeks old.

Hannah Donaldson [00:09:13] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:09:13] Yeah. Yeah. All night patrol we were riding on the on the train and we didn't know how to speak English. We didn't know how to warm the milk. We didn't know nothing.

Hannah Donaldson [00:09:26] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:09:27] And she got so sick. Poor little thing. Yeah. Yeah. So we had to go through a lot. Yeah. And then here we were, we were moving in with my husband's uncle for a while, for a few weeks. And then the the other uncle took us in for two weeks and then finally he could while he was my husband was working in Colorado. He started the job there, but he couldn't do it. Shoveling hot salt all night long on the truck because of his heart problems. He couldn't do it. So we came to Cleveland by train and she and he found a job here right away. And so and he was at that job for almost 30 years. The same company. Yeah. Because every every the whole family was working. Their dad, uncles and cousins and my daughter even worked there for a while in the office.

Hannah Donaldson [00:10:27] And where where were they working at? What was it called?

Ema Fuchs [00:10:30] At Haserot Company. Yeah. Yeah. It's a small company, but they always had work. Never never out of a job.

Hannah Donaldson [00:10:39] Yeah that's great.

Ema Fuchs [00:10:40] And he worked a lot. My husband worked a lot even Saturday. Some days there was no holiday, nothing. He always was working. And then we were able to buy to buy a house and I was working. But, you know, with the small children, you cannot put that money that much of a work. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:11:01] Yeah. What were you doing at the time? Like, we were

Ema Fuchs [00:11:03] cleaning cleaning homes because I couldn't speak English and I was working at the restaurant. That's a German restaurant. Hats so hats. What was the name of that? Herzberger. Herzberger [00:11:15] [0.0s] And that was in Rocky River. I worked at night for the parties, weddings and all that. Yeah. Because my English I couldn't speak English.

Elsa Arsic [00:11:27] She actually helped me get the job in Brecksville. Broadview heights school.

Hannah Donaldson [00:11:33] Oh wow, thats wonderful.

Elsa Arsic [00:11:33] Yeah. That's where she worked and she put in a good word and then they hired me too. So that's why I ended up I think I told you that how I worked for the schools.

Hannah Donaldson [00:11:44] Yeah.

Elsa Arsic [00:11:44] I worked nine years in Brecksville and then eight years and Parma, but I think she worked five years.

Elsa Arsic [00:11:54] I worked five years at the school in Brecksville. Yeah. And then what they did a friend of mine, she was a teacher and she said, you know, you can do more with children than just cleaning here. OK, so we went on vacation to Germany and when I came back I had a home daycare like my girls arranged, did want to do a home daycare. So I had the home daycare for I was allowed to have six, seven children. Including three babies and, and when we came back while I had the day care here and my daughter helped me for one month and then she said, you're on your own.

Hannah Donaldson [00:12:38] And what year was this?

Ema Fuchs [00:12:40] That was, ahhh, what year was that? Probably 66, 67.

Elsa Arsic [00:12:46] Probably the end of the 90s.

Ema Fuchs [00:12:48] No, no, no seventy 76, 77.

Hannah Donaldson [00:12:49] 76, 77?

Ema Fuchs [00:12:51] Yeah, Yeah. So that was, that was my life. I love the kids. Yeah. I always had a houseful of children.

Hannah Donaldson [00:13:00] Yeah. That's wonderful.

Ema Fuchs [00:13:03] Yeah and I cooked for them and they liked what I cooked and they still write me letters about it, some pictures and I just met them at German Central, the grandma of one of them and never forgot my name. They all called me Omi because they thought it was my name, because I have my own great grandchildren.

Hannah Donaldson [00:13:23] Right.

Ema Fuchs [00:13:24] So they called me Omi. Everybody called me Omi. I said, that's not my name, yes, yes that is your name Omi. OK? And my husband was Opah. Yeah. That's German. You know, Grandpa and grandma,

Hannah Donaldson [00:13:40] When you cooked, did you cook a lot of German food or South American food or?

Ema Fuchs [00:13:46] Mixed.

Hannah Donaldson [00:13:46] Mixed?

Ema Fuchs [00:13:46] They love chicken soup. Oh my gosh. They love chicken soup and pancakes in the morning. I cook twice a day for them yeah the morning was pancakes or we changed. Yeah, pancakes, waffles or anything, you know, that they liked and, uh. And, um. Oh, well. And then most of the time, well, not always chicken soup, but the one, the one I watched, he was funny. His mom called me and she said, you know, we went on vacation. He would not eat the chicken soup. He says, I'm going to eat the chicken soup, at Omi's.

Hannah Donaldson [00:14:27] That's so funny.

Ema Fuchs [00:14:28] Yeah, they were homemade. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:14:30] You mentioned that you didn't know English when you came to the United States. Did you just learn through assimilation? Did you take classes?

Ema Fuchs [00:14:36] I went to I went to school for three months in the evening. And that was not very long. But, you know, the German is very related with the English, so it was not hard to learn. Yeah, I still don't know very well, but.

Hannah Donaldson [00:14:53] I think your English is perfect.

Ema Fuchs [00:14:56] I mean, everybody knows my German accent. Yeah. Yeah. And that's working, you know, with families and cleaned I cleaned homes for twenty years and that was my second job. And then I had a third job. I worked at the bridal shop. Sewing, uh, bridal gowns and what else did I do? Well, in Brazil, I worked at the candy factory for seven years and think.

Hannah Donaldson [00:15:28] Oh wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:15:28] Yeah, and that was fun. Yeah. But yeah, I always worked and I'm used to it. I didn't when when I retired, I always had that feeling. I have to go. I have to go. I have to go. You know that pressure you know.

Hannah Donaldson [00:15:44] Yeah absolutely.

Ema Fuchs [00:15:46] Two, three jobs a day. And then I watched and I was here when I cleaned homes. I watched an old lady also. I cooked for her. I cleaned for her. And she loved me and I loved her. She was nice. And her name was Mrs. Huntley. Yeah. And. Elsi (Elsa) knows how much we worked for other people took care of em. She did, too. Yeah, yeah. And it was a good feeling, you know, it was a really good feeling. And I still feel like that. I always wanted to be a nurse and I still feel like I want to help people.

Hannah Donaldson [00:16:28] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:16:29] That feeling never went away.

Hannah Donaldson [00:16:31] That's incredible.

Ema Fuchs [00:16:32] Yeah. And my dad always said, oh, girls don't need don't need to do to have a professional job because you're getting married, your husband going to take care of you. I said, you don't know, but I wanted, really wanted to be a nurse all the time. Yeah. But my parents didn't have the money to go to higher school when I went to school. It was not even a great school for a long time. My uncle was my my teacher, my dad's brother and we learned German. And then I had a very nice German teacher and she moved to Portugal. And then we had communications all those years till she died. She came back to California because her sister was there and she was so weak already. I called I found out her number because she had a brother in Tennessee he's a pastor and he gave me the number. And then I called and her husband answered her name was Spanish the Da Silva, but he spoke of just the perfect German.

Hannah Donaldson [00:17:56] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:17:56] Yeah. So he says, I don't know if she can talk to you, if she even know if if she even remembers you, you know, and she was dying already. And I said, hello, Martha, Emie Fuchs. She always called me Emaline actually. I said, this is Emaline. And she said, Oh my gosh, Emaline I missed you so much.

Hannah Donaldson [00:18:21] Oh, that's wonderful.

Ema Fuchs [00:18:23] And then a few days later, she died. Yeah, she was very weak already, but very nice lady. I learned a lot from her. And then we went, I went to Spanish school in Uruguay, I don't know how many years we went, oh, probably about ten years. And then we moved to Brazil. And there I, I spoke I had to learn Portuguese, but that was not very hard because Portuguese and Spanish, many words are similar. Yeah. And and then I learned how to sew clothes and that's why I worked at the bridal shop.

Hannah Donaldson [00:19:03] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:19:04] Yeah. Yeah. I went to school there for to learn how to how to make the cuts and everything, you know, from scratch. And that looks good. I can do anything. Sewing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What else you want to know?

Hannah Donaldson [00:19:21] So when you're in the United States, were you involved in any kind of, you know, organizations? I know you mentioned dancing in dance halls or churches or anything like that?

Ema Fuchs [00:19:30] All the German clubs, yeah, The kids went to school, German school, out in, ah. At first we went to Banater Club that was on 140th and Lorain and that was the German club that's out now in Olmsted Falls, Lenau. And and they went to German school, started German school at 140th and and Lorain. And then they moved out to, they have a big building out in Olmsted Falls, which the Octoberfest everything is there. And my kids went to school at first on 140th. And then they moved out here. So I took them. I was always on the road. My husband was working night shift. He had to sleep during the day and I was busy with the kids driving them back and forth. They all know how to speak German, how to write, and how to read German. And and then I think two of them took Spanish in school, also. Yeah. So but they don't know much Spanish because we always were talking either Portuguese or or German. Yeah. So and they were in the dance group and they were in the um, my daughters played accordion for the dance group. They played instruments and uh yeah we had a lot of fun at the time.

Hannah Donaldson [00:20:55] That's wonderful.

Ema Fuchs [00:20:56] Oh yeah. Yeah. I was driving them back and forth, back and forth and then of course I had to, I worked also I and I at the household and whatever we had to do. I was up every night sewing and we didn't have much money to buy stuff, so I sewed most of the clothes for the kids, too. I always wanted to I always wanted twins.

Hannah Donaldson [00:21:24] Yeah?

Ema Fuchs [00:21:24] We almost had them they're only eleven, eleven and a half year apart, eleven and a half months apart. Yeah. So we almost had twins and I dressed them as twins all the time. So I thought they were funny. It was out there. It was a lot of fun with the kids.

Hannah Donaldson [00:21:43] And how many children do you have?

Ema Fuchs [00:21:44] Three.

Hannah Donaldson [00:21:44] Three?

Ema Fuchs [00:21:45] Yeah. So I lost two of them but I still have three healthy ones. So which is good. Thank God.

Hannah Donaldson [00:21:53] Yeah, absolutely

Ema Fuchs [00:21:54] Yeah. And then we joined the church when we came here to Cleveland German service with Pastor Hoyer and my husband played the tuba, you know, the press choir for 27 years there. And I was in the choir, I was singing, I still have to sing, but my voice is not so good anymore. Yeah. Let me sing to tell me everything. And I have my good loving freund here. My friend. He's a sweetheart. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:22:27] Now how did you meet Gunther?

Ema Fuchs [00:22:27] Going dancing.

Hannah Donaldson [00:22:30] Going dancing?

Ema Fuchs [00:22:32] At Octoberfest. He lost his wife and I didn't even know that he lost his wife that many years ago. And I saw him walking around at the Octoberfest I knew his wife too, but we never had a close relationship or anything, you know, so he was higher quality than me. He's an engineer. And they had their own, uh, friends and we had our own friends, you know, but at the club, I. I still see him walking through there through the hallway. His wife walked first and then he came after her. And I thought when we went to the Octoberfest, I didn't know that his wife died and he was walking like a lost person there, you know? So I said hi to him and he says, You want to dance? Yeah, yeah, I like to dance. And since then, the dancing he asked me out. Yeah, we went to the Holiday Inn on Rockside we dance a lot there. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:23:38] And when when did you meet, like what year?

Ema Fuchs [00:23:41] That was six years ago I think when we started to out. But I knew him before. Yeah I didn't know that his wife died early. She had some kind of illness. Yes. They couldn't help her. Yeah. But we go to the cemetery to see her, and we go to my husband. He passed like eight years ago.

Hannah Donaldson [00:24:03] 8 years ago.

Ema Fuchs [00:24:04] And so we're good friends. And he is here quite a bit. Yeah. And it's good. It's good. I'm not by myself. He is not by. But he has his own apartment next to his son, you know, connected to his son's house out in, um, what is it called where you live? I pass, there every day.

Gunther [00:24:29] I don't know.

Ema Fuchs [00:24:32] He forgets everything he has dementia. Yeah, and. A lot more Jenny want. Where's Jenny out there Hinkley out in Hinkley. Yeah, yeah, he lives out in Hinckley, so but he's not allowed to drive anymore. So I drive him back and forth and help him. Oh, yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:24:55] Did you experience any major, like, cultural differences coming to the United States from South America or from your German roots? Anything that was really surprising or different?

Ema Fuchs [00:25:06] Well, of course. The English. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:25:08] Right.

Ema Fuchs [00:25:08] I learned that. Yeah. But it didn't take very long. You know, I probably made a lot of mistakes. But Sharon Hearing, Elsa Sharon, you know Sharon.

Elsa Arsic [00:25:21] Yeah from Church somebody

Ema Fuchs [00:25:23] We we were at the hospital at the same time. She is from our church and we had a baby, both of them, the same day.

Elsa Arsic [00:25:31] Oh, really?

Ema Fuchs [00:25:31] Yeah.

Elsa Arsic [00:25:33] Oh, I never knew that.

Ema Fuchs [00:25:33] Sharon's youngest one and Ursula my youngest is over. She's over 50 now.

Elsa Arsic [00:25:38] Oh.

Ema Fuchs [00:25:40] And she came always to my room talking English. And I wish she wouldn't have because I didn't know how to answer it. He has to go out. He's making that noise. He's jealous, because.

Elsa Arsic [00:25:52] Oh, that's the doggie with his Ding Ding.

Ema Fuchs [00:25:53] Yeah. He has to go out, yeah. But Sharon came to my room all the time and I remember saying, oh, it's instead saying. It's so hard to learn everything I said, it's so heavy to learn everything. But I was I still laugh about that. And I ask Sharon already. Did you remember that? I'm saying the wrong thing. She said, oh I didn't care. I wanted to talk to you.

Elsa Arsic [00:26:25] So which one did you have, Edith then?

Ema Fuchs [00:26:27] No, no. Ursula,

Elsa Arsic [00:26:29] Oh Ursula, the youngest one.

Ema Fuchs [00:26:30] Yeah. The youngest one.

Elsa Arsic [00:26:31] He has the dingaling.

Gunther [00:26:31] Should I take him out?

Ema Fuchs [00:26:33] Do you mind? Just out here. You don't have to walk with him. It's hot out there. OK?

Gunther [00:26:38] But I have to, let let.

Ema Fuchs [00:26:41] Yeah.The leash. You have to put on otherwise he runs away so. But he's a big help with the dog too. Yeah. So anyhow but he's my sweetheart right now. He's a nice guy. He's so nice. Yeah.

Hannah Donaldson [00:26:56] That's wonderful.

Ema Fuchs [00:26:57] And his family is very nice to me and they agree that we are together and my, my kids they don't mind either, they say at least you're not by yourself.

Hannah Donaldson [00:27:05] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:27:08] And he is not by himself and I just love him. I fell in love with him. I don't know why but I'm older than he is but not much a year and a half. But he says I don't mind. I don't care. So what with our educators. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As long as you have someone to talk to, that's all it matters.

Hannah Donaldson [00:27:31] Absolutely.

Ema Fuchs [00:27:32] I cooked for him. He likes my food what I cook. And so the German style.

Hannah Donaldson [00:27:39] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:27:40] His son is married to an American girl and she's very nice to have three children, smaller ones. And his daughter is married to an American guy. So they hardley speak any German at home. And he loves that German.

Hannah Donaldson [00:27:57] Yeah?

Ema Fuchs [00:27:57] Yeah, he loves I have four four German channels on TV. He loves those. Yeah. The German news and everything. You know, they bring all kinds of news.

Hannah Donaldson [00:28:08] Yeah.

Ema Fuchs [00:28:09] And he's from East Germany. My husband was from East Germany and it all his he always said, look, we have so much in common we need to be together and we have we are. So it's nice to have someone. Yeah. He appreciates everything I'm doing for him. Yeah. Yeah. So but long story and my kids, they got married and they're all three of them were divorced because they picked the wrong partner and we've seen it but they didn't see it but.

Hannah Donaldson [00:28:44] Oh so you knew they had picked the wrong partner?

Ema Fuchs [00:28:47] So they agree now that they picked the wrong partner, but they didn't then, you know, they were teenagers and but they're doing fine. And they're all three by themselves. They're doing just fine.

Hannah Donaldson [00:29:02] Good.

Ema Fuchs [00:29:03] Have good jobs. And Ingrid started school again, my second one. She lives in Virginia and the other one in Pennsylvania, the youngest one, Ursula, and the oldest one this year in North Royalton. Yeah, that's the older one. Yeah. But she's so she's so busy and I hardly see her. It was her birthday. I didn't even see her. On her birthday on the seventh of September.

Hannah Donaldson [00:29:30] Oh wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:29:31] Yeah. And she's she's very busy working a lot. Yeah she works for a doctor's office, and then she has her own office there and she delivers medicine to nursing homes.

Hannah Donaldson [00:29:46] Oh, okay.

Ema Fuchs [00:29:48] On her free time, which is always the second job. Yeah, and Ursula does the same thing. My youngest one that lives in Pennsylvania she, she draws blood on people and works with the hospital and the doctors. Yeah. Yeah. And this one that lives here, she does ultrasounds, heart and in arteries.

Hannah Donaldson [00:30:12] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:30:13] She has her own room at the doctor's office. Yeah. All the machinery and everything. And she found out that I had heart problems.

Hannah Donaldson [00:30:22] Really?

Ema Fuchs [00:30:23] I fell I fell like two years ago I passed out, taking the dog for a walk and my heart stopped. I fell.

Hannah Donaldson [00:30:32] Oh, my goodness,

Ema Fuchs [00:30:33] Backwards on the cement. And I didn't know what was wrong. I didn't even realize that I fell till I felt the big bump on my head.

Hannah Donaldson [00:30:44] Right.

Ema Fuchs [00:30:45] But the dog was with me, watching me, next sitting next to me and watched me. And I got up and drove drove up to the rec center like, well, exercising whenever I can. And then I went out to the club, North, North Olmsted, Olmsted Falls. To pick up some sausage. And I got yelled from the doctor beause he said you could have had another heart attack. You know, it was not really a heart attack. It's just my heart skipped like a good part of it and stopped beating.

Hannah Donaldson [00:31:22] Wow.

Ema Fuchs [00:31:23] And then the the doctor said that my medicine was too strong.

Hannah Donaldson [00:31:31] Right.

Ema Fuchs [00:31:33] High blood sugar, high high blood pressure medicine was too strong. And that stopped my heart. So he lowered it and I'm fine and went back to normal. So which is great. Yeah. Pretty healthy. I'm pretty healthy.

Hannah Donaldson [00:31:47] Yeah, absolutely.

Ema Fuchs [00:31:48] Yeah. Yeah. I just went to the doctors. My eyes are ok. My body is OK. So far I have a little problem like everybody else, but I can handle it.

Hannah Donaldson [

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